The audio of a testy exchange between Senator Elizabeth Warren and Senator Bernie Sanders following their Democratic primary debate on Tuesday has been released online.
The debate featured several clashes between the two presidential candidates, both polling in the top three behind former Vice President Joe Biden, and ended with Warren refusing to shake Sanders’ hand.
When Sanders extends his hand towards Warren, who enthusiastically shook the hands of others on stage, she recoils her hand and the two begin to argue. Both look tense for a few seconds, exchanging words, ultimately separating as Sanders walks off of the stage.
While the initial audio was not shared, BizPac Review reports “background audio footage from the debate was released Wednesday by CNN.”
According to the report, Warren refused to shake Sanders’ hand and then asked him if he called her a liar on national television.
“I think you called me a liar on national TV?” she said in a questioning manner, per the report.
“What?” an off-guard Sanders replied.
“I think you called me a liar on national TV,” she echoed, this time more definitive.
“Let’s not do it right now,” Sanders said in response. “You want to have that discussion, we’ll have that discussion.”
“Anytime,” Warren said, stoking the Vermont senator.
“You called me a liar, you told me,” Sanders began to say, stopping himself from finishing the thought. “Alright, let’s not do it now.”
Fellow presidential candidate Tom Steyer stood between the two candidates during the brief exchange, saying: “I don’t want to get in the middle of it, I just want to say hi, Bernie.”
“Yeah, good,” Sanders said, shaking Steyer’s hand before turning to leave the stage.
BizPac Review adds:
Their beef concerns an anonymously sourced CNN report published Monday alleging that during a private meeting between the pair in late 2018, Sanders told Warren that he didn’t believe a woman could win the 2020 presidential election.
While CNN did not identify the sources, the going theory is that they were Warren campaign operatives who purposefully leaked the alleged details of the meeting to weaken Sanders going into the upcoming Iowa Democrat caucuses.
9. The Warren campaign and their allies leaked this attack against Bernie to the press for political gain. I spoke to the journalists who wrote some of the first stories and they confirm this. CNN confirmed this publicly yesterday. The Warren campaign does not deny this.
— Shaun King (@shaunking) January 15, 2020
In response, Sanders denied ever saying that a woman could not win the White House in 2020 and described the claim as “ludicrous.”
“It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win,” he said, as BizPac Review reports. “It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened.”
“What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course!” he added. “After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.”